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We support them in their strike to get paid and have safe staffing levels".<br /><br />http://www.cnatraininghub.orgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-66447588506947212412011-03-27T02:55:46.611-07:002011-03-27T02:55:46.611-07:00how much is the unsocial hours payment ?how much is the unsocial hours payment ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-28373844571823319762011-01-21T01:18:35.138-08:002011-01-21T01:18:35.138-08:00Totally agree with dino nurse, there is no reason ...Totally agree with dino nurse, there is no reason why nurses could not go on strike in the way she suggested. in the early 80'S nurses went on strike at the london hospital i worked at for aprox 4 days, I remember standing on a picket line outside the hospital gates and recieving a huge amount of support from the public. We ensured there was a skelaton staff on each ward and had a picket line rota so patients did not suffer. we also worked to rule so actually took our breaks ect. it is possible totake action without endangering patients if all staff work together and support each other this means those nursesw who will not take direct action supporting those that are willing too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-67295745995947899562011-01-16T12:51:11.501-08:002011-01-16T12:51:11.501-08:00"it's probably of no consolation but juni...<i>"it's probably of no consolation but junior doctors get no extra pay for antisocial hours"</i><br /><br />Yes they do. It is called banding and is given for working hours over something like 40hrs and for working antisocial hours. I get it. Are you making a more complicated argument than that? Because I doubt very much you receive base rate pay if you're working one-in-two weekends and you work in the NHS.<br /><br />I think the difference between nurses and doctors is that nurses are paid per hour and so can get overtime or unsocial hours rates while doctors are salaried and get a flat percentage supplement based on their rostered hours.pjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06832177812057826894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-23130715190010824112011-01-15T08:33:42.844-08:002011-01-15T08:33:42.844-08:00The type of idiots that read the Daily Fail alread...The type of idiots that read the Daily Fail already think we are too posh to wash so I doubt that they would think any less of us for striking. <br />If the unions organised things properly, ran adverts like the australian nurses are doing, played some of the YouTube footage from the US that you've posted at PrimeTime...we might actually get a bit of support. The worried well would certainly be behind us. We need to make people see that this really is their last chance to keep a free service. If the tories get their way we will all be social enterprises and there are only so many trusts that will be able to stay afloat. Do we really want a system thats run by charities or the church? How unbiased will they be?Dino-nursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032700219601293612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-64165949206577619842011-01-15T07:50:58.693-08:002011-01-15T07:50:58.693-08:00And the daily fail headline below that one would b...And the daily fail headline below that one would be.<br /><br />"Lovely angelic perfect beautiful midwives are struggling to care for too many patients as a result of NHS cuts. We support them in their strike to get paid and have safe staffing levels".Nurse Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05400048448105519082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-39783318845062996632011-01-15T07:48:33.807-08:002011-01-15T07:48:33.807-08:00Yes Sue I can see the daily fail headlines now.
&...Yes Sue I can see the daily fail headlines now.<br /><br />"Lazy overeducated nurses who leave patients starving to death in their own waste and smack grannies around go on strike because they think that they deserve to get paid"Nurse Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05400048448105519082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-47251552550828711462011-01-15T07:41:50.826-08:002011-01-15T07:41:50.826-08:00They have threatened this at our trust. We have al...They have threatened this at our trust. We have all said if this happens, we will be gone. <br /><br />I do think that we *could* strike without endangering patient care- we could just refuse to answer phones or anything not patient care related. Not that management would care. They know we will not just walk out of a shift (and if we did, they would just report the RNs to the NMC). Can you imagine the field day the papers would have with a nursing strike?Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-244250578392391722011-01-15T05:42:32.793-08:002011-01-15T05:42:32.793-08:00That is disgusting Gareth.
And I know that the sa...That is disgusting Gareth.<br /><br />And I know that the salaries of many junior doctors are lower than that of senior nurses. Which means that it is lower than that of a teacher, train conductor,binman, dog groomer. Makes me sick. <br /><br />The cadets do not get paid unsocial hours either yet are still forced to work nights.Nurse Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05400048448105519082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-31799186464058846072011-01-15T02:55:25.612-08:002011-01-15T02:55:25.612-08:00it's probably of no consolation but junior doc...it's probably of no consolation but junior doctors get no extra pay for antisocial hours<br /><br />i currently work one in two weekends and get no more pay that if these hours were just daylight monday to friday hoursGarth Marenghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373175498875348430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-64732022107138462442011-01-15T00:26:04.962-08:002011-01-15T00:26:04.962-08:00Crazy. The thing I don't understand is this:
...Crazy. The thing I don't understand is this:<br /><br />1. The NHS receives *HUGE* amounts of taxpayer money.<br /><br />2. It is the 3rd largest employer in the World, after the Chinese Army and the Indian National Railways.<br /><br />3. People like you on the front line are overworked and under resourced.<br /><br />4. My own experience of the NHS has shown me examples of incompetent and top-heavy management, but my question is; where does the money go?<br /><br />We need an NHS focused equivalent of Wat Tyler, the ex "Burning Our Money" blogger to unravel the leakage. Somebody with the insight, understanding and financial knowledge to assess the Emperor's clothing. Can you recruit such a spin-off?<br /><br />Ray.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-91667599635064227102011-01-14T16:13:17.585-08:002011-01-14T16:13:17.585-08:00There we have it then Anne, lets go now to Meteoro...There we have it then Anne, lets go now to Meteorology school and never look back!<br /><br />In regards to what uknurse said. Nights ruin you, totally. I worked so many nights in the A&E a few years back in winter time and was so accustomed to night time my eyes hurt when I eventually broke the cycle and went to days and had to leave the house during sun hours! I'm pale/gaunt-looking the best of days too, and never looked very well after a stint on nights. Never again if the pay isn't worth it.Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10810538308795285525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-6114451901627450082011-01-14T14:49:37.419-08:002011-01-14T14:49:37.419-08:00Working nights takes years off your life, and work...Working nights takes years off your life, and working evenings and weekends takes years out of your family time. Unsociable pay goes some way to compensate for this. If this pay is stopped, I am outta here.uknursenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-15617615641919636242011-01-14T10:31:21.923-08:002011-01-14T10:31:21.923-08:00Funny you mention that Nursing student.
I love me...Funny you mention that Nursing student.<br /><br />I love meteorology. Did it as an advanced placement/uni course in school.<br /><br />I was a science geek/dork in High school. We had a morning news show that senior students anchored every morning. It was channeled into every homeroom's TV on a school network think.<br /><br />I was the weather anchor and I had to use my own readings etc to present on the show.<br /><br />Got a rep for being more correct than the local news station. LOL.<br /><br />Go for it!! <br /><br />Whatever possesed to leave earth sciences behind and take an interest in biological sciences and then pursue nursing because I wanted to "help people" was spawned of the devil.<br /><br />Meteorology is fun. Geek is the new cool didn't you know.....Nurse Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05400048448105519082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-50136114813196653842011-01-14T10:14:28.653-08:002011-01-14T10:14:28.653-08:00WTF? I don't want to think they can do this bu...WTF? I don't want to think they can do this but what if they do? They will struggle to staff the hospital at night because nobody will want to work those hours for the pay. A potentially dangerous, under-staffed and unsuported working environment as it is now ( and in the day alone) becomes lethal at night. Before Dr Crippen bailed I remember one of his posts about how hospitals are becoming incresingly more dangerous for patients at night because of the lack of medical staff and on-site support, and now this. On my old stroke ward placement the majority of the drama went down in the night, as I assume is the case with most acute environments. <br /><br />My local prison has 2 RN's at the least, working during the day. This increases depending on what is on at the health centre (different clinics, doctor visitations) but there is ALWAYS 2/3 Nurses on at night without fail. Why? Because the majority of shit goes down in the PM. <br /><br />As much as I love my profession, I woulden't work for peanuts (AKA day shift rate) for night work. Ever. Nor would I give up a fricking day leave or whatever stupid ideas they will come up with. <br /><br />Hmmm, maybe I will become a meteorologist like my partner. Good pay, won't get struck off and ruin my entire life over a simple mistake as mistakes are inevitable and accepted in that profession, and I get to sit on my bum all day. Bliss.Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10810538308795285525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-32651573995653048322011-01-14T10:07:18.401-08:002011-01-14T10:07:18.401-08:00Well, after the pay freeze and the increment freez...Well, after the pay freeze and the increment freeze it was only a matter of time before they brought in a pay cut. If they cut nurses' pay people will start abandoning ship surely?pjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06832177812057826894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-41195352733355457052011-01-14T09:58:55.789-08:002011-01-14T09:58:55.789-08:00The patients are already being f*cked over Anne. O...The patients are already being f*cked over Anne. One RN to care for so many means the majority on a medical ward get ignored as the RN has to look to the sickest. I still think that if a national strike were planned, it would never have to go ahead. If a date and time were set then government would have to take notice. It wouldn't have to effect frontline emergency care- it would start at 8am with no nurses for outpatients, walk-in centres, elective/daycase units and other low dependancy areas. This would progress during the day to a refusal to work through breaks by all nursing staff and a "work to rule". I doubt that it would get past the first 5 minutes before trusts and governments gave in. It will only work if the unions do their jobs and fork out to run commercials during Coronation Street and Eastenders style shows pointing out what an NHS ward is really like and setting an ultimatum this way. its worked for other countries, so why not here?Dino-nursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032700219601293612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-40747696412420361282011-01-14T09:33:39.459-08:002011-01-14T09:33:39.459-08:00Someone at work was telling me that her partner is...Someone at work was telling me that her partner is a train conductor and he is on 30,000 after taxes and they get loads of overtime on top of it. And they are bored at work. Might be something to look into.Nurse Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05400048448105519082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277229251527832949.post-35264785718588520222011-01-14T09:31:23.217-08:002011-01-14T09:31:23.217-08:00My job is all the more bearable for unsocial hours...My job is all the more bearable for unsocial hours pay - it makes up nearly a 1/4 of my pay packet! And something I can't do without! <br /><br />If they stop it, then as much as I am proud of working for the NHS, I'm off to be a tube driver and go on strike whenever bloody I feel like it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com