Wednesday, 4 August 2010

Dame Christine Beasley

So who thinks that she would grant this site an exclusive interview?

Anyone?  You can place your bets in the comments section.

I am going to try both Chrissy and Peter Carter.

I have some nice questions in mind.  Add your questions below.



GrumpyRN said...

Won't happen, but if it did it would just be more platitiudes.

Nurse Anne said...

But it would be fun to try.

Anonymous said...

Dame Christine. You DO realise that you are a pompous, self-righteous deluded old windbag that is as much use to the modern nursing profession as a chocolate teapot do you?

What you need Madam is a short sharp stint on the wards. By yourself. In charge of 20 very sick patients.

You have accomplished nothing in your time heading your unelected but handsomely paid quango other than to strew cowpats from the devil's own satanic herd in the path of us nurses.

Perhaps you would like us to audit the cowpats? We await your proposal with baited breath.

Anonymous said...

Hospital Trust appoint a whole raft of people under the title of Nursing. How many are actually registered nurses ?
Inivitation to a day / week in your shoes. How about a job swap for a month she to your ward and you to the ivory tower.
Patient ratio to RN show safer and efficient care and more cost effective why isn't it being implemented ? I don't know what to ask Peter Carter because the RCN has been co-opted by the government for decades and seems to serve itself. Most nurses join the RCN for insurance purposes perhaps it's time for RNs to shop around for insurance which would = no fees.Sorry rambling a bit
just retired A
PS Good Luck

Dino-nurse said...

Her PR cronies would never allow it. God fobid that she have to answer questions that were not pre-approved. I think the safe RN ratio would be the most interesting question.How about the title "nurse" being reserved for qualified RNs? Also are APs the new dumbed down ENs? How safe would she feel being admitted to an admissions unit or ED? Why does she not listen? As for the RCN...can I have a refund for 20yrs worth of subscription? Why do they call themselves a trade union when they are not? Also the "nurse" as a protected title.
I wish you luck but I will not hold my breath....I want to live lol

Chrissy and Peter said...

Well try it you daft cow!

Peter and I do not give a shit about you! You are a mere nurse who cannot deal with a meds round of 55 million people in ten minutes! Where are your skills?

Get a life and stop moaning!

Nurse Anne said...

Chrissy I have a coupon for Bon Marche and Evans. You can have it.

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Anonymous said...

I'd like to know what the NHS and nursing as a profession will be like one, five, ten, and twenty years from now.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to know what the NHS and nursing as a profession will be like one, five, ten, and twenty years from now.

Dino-nurse said...

I doubt we will have an NHS in another decade. Many of the Foundation Trusts are already allowed to bring in external buisness to top up income. Once some of the restrictions are lifted, I bet many will opt to move towards a "co-payer" system which will eventually led to them taking more and more patients who are willing to pay for treatment and ultimately become HMO hospitals. Like the US at the moment, they will say that they will not turn people away but in reality they will and blame the HMO providers for not paying. Clever. Just like the current plan is to let locals control hospitals (led by GPs) so the blame will fall here when the job cuts and closures come. As for nursing- unless it becomes better paid few will want to do it. I think either we get RNs only in acute settings (or even only ED and critical care) on a decent wage and APs everywhere else, or we get RNs only in better-off hospitals and APs everywhere else. Either way, its a recipe for disaster.

Nurse Anne said...


I recently got into a discussion with some AP students here on the internet.

This is what I have learned:

They think they are better than Nurses

They don't believe that the hospitals want to move RN's away from direct patient care.

They do believe that the RNs want to "dump on them" and they "won't have it"

They think that if those of us on the front lines are so short staffed we should "start putting in incident forms and if we can't deal with the fire we should get out of the kitchen".

Methinks some ignorant little shits are about to have a rude awakening when they get thrown into the deep end.

Almost every RN I know is either trying to immigrate asap or near retirement.

Dino-nurse said...

Sad but true Anne. We do not have APs in ICU as yet as our Matron is standing her ground (for how long?). The few I have had dealings with on the medical wards are an accident waiting to happen...they have no concept of just how little they know. They look down on the HCAs and seem to think that all RNs do is moan. They have no idea of what the NHS has in store for them. Just because they can second check medicines they think they know all about them...I recently caught one about to give digoxin and a beta blocker to a man with a resting pulse of 50 and a systolic of 95...he also looked pretty unwell and was puffing on his ventolin and angina meds...the AP didn't take kindly to my intervention or "checking up" as she called it. She liked it even less when I dragged the F2 over to see the patient and asked which RN was supervising her (oh yes, they need to have everything countersigned by an RN so are not exactly a labour or time saving device). She put in an IR1 about me saying that I was rude to her. Case in point. Personally I hope the RCN and NMC give them what they want...accountability via a PIN and then lets see how good they are! An easy way to cut the number of RNs...until the sh** hits the fan. By then we will be in the same state as 20 years ago with all new RNs quitting to work abroad or in Tescos.

GrumpyRN said...

Time to confess some ignorance, can someone tell me what an AP is? Also, if they are students, who teaches them and to what level?

Nurse Anne said...


If you could go to page 5 of this debate and help me out I would be eternally grateful.

I shouldn't really care but I have tried to explain to some HCA and AP students that wards must be safely staffed with RNs and have also tried to tell them exactly what it is that they are being used for.

They are shooting the messenger and accusing me of HCA bashing.

I almost pity them.

Nurse Anne said...

They are assistant practitioners. They have a 2 year foundation degree. I don't know who teaches them.

They are basically some kind of qualified nurses' assistants. Apparantly they can check and cosign drugs.

They also think that they can do a better job of it than our failing RNs have done recently.

The APs will be used so that the ward staffing levels can get down to one RN per shift.

From what I hear they just do basic care and hang out with the HCAs...leaving the RN to handle everything else.

But I haven't met one personally yet. I am sure they would be great in addition to safe RN staffing but of course they will be used instead of safe RN staffing.

GrumpyRN said...

Thanks Anne, sounds a bit like the old EN (or SEN in England) without them being taught the limits of their knowledge or capabilities.
Anne, you and I have had this discussion before, a good EN used to be worth their weight in gold but we knew we were not in charge and our knowledge was always limited (and we were paid less).

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Nurse Anne said...

One of the best Nurses I know is a former EN. And one of the worst nurses I know is a former EN.

There is no respect in the NHS anymore. It's like the empower the thick because they are easily controlable.

We have cadets and apprentices now who give any Nurse who asks them to remember fill in fluid balance charts the two finger salute. They roll their eye when you ask them to do all the obs for their team rather than picking and choosing. Or they just say "well Miss RN just do it yourself". Doing it ourselves is, of course, physically impossible because the large number of patients each Nurse is assigned.

The problem is the lack of respect and the idea that they are somewhere better than the Nurses.

The thing is they don't really understand what the RN is doing and why, they don't understand why the RN is on the phone and filling in paperwork to get that stat med from pharmacy while the HCA does the bed baths herself. They think we are dumping on them.

And they are not disciplined by management. Far from it.

Nurse Anne said...

they empower the thick I meant.

Anonymous said...

Nurse Anne: from your comment above you have some very bad apprentices but in a previous post you said that all but one passed their assessments. How can this be? Or are these a new batch who won't be allowed to pass their assessments? Just from your comment I can see half a dozen ways of referring them.

Conundrum said...

Saw this, thought of your blog:

A SATAN-worshipping nurse is facing the sack after summoning flesh-eating homunculi during working hours.

NHS homunculi are cheap but very bloodthirsty
Jackie Simpson, a senior staff nurse at Doncaster Royal Infirmary, has defended her actions insisting she is a diligent professional whose work is not affected by her devotion to the Lord of the Flies and his horde of pus-filled abominations.

She said: "On the day in question we were short-staffed due to a rota cock-up, so I decided the only way to get the beds made was to create two magical mini-men out of goat's blood and saltpetre.

"I then recited a spell from my goatskin-bound grimoire which animated their misshapen forms, leaving them perfectly prepared to do the NHS's bidding.

"The resulting homunculi were extremely efficient, cheerful and allowed us to get the rounds done in time for visiting hours."

However management took exception when one of the homunculi, named Metanqua, was found feeding on a recently-deceased patient.

Simpson said: "'The ward sister asked if Metanqua and the other homunculous, Korazon, could stay and do a double shift as there still wasn't any money to pay nurses and I said yes, but they would need some human flesh as sustenance.

"She said that was fine as there was an MRSA victim with no relatives about to be incinerated, they could have a bit of her. But when senior management found out, all hell broke loose, metaphorically speaking.

She added: "If you ask me, it's all about politics."

Anonymous said...

Nonsense, this nurse would get an award for innovation in the modern NHS!

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